Ionic4/Stencil - chat group?

The in-house line is that it provides 90% of Angular and is much faster. I hope that proves to be true.

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90%? I haven’t used Angular lately but just off the top of my head I think Angular includes DI and two-way binding. Just those two things are more important than 10% imho.

https://stenciljs.com/demos website was built using stencilJS so I can tell it’s optimized for building simple websites, app UI, etc.

You can’t have two-way binding and a shadow dom. That’s already a big distinction between Angular and React/Vue (and now Stencil).

I’m no expert, but not sure we need shadow dom (i.e. lit-html is super fast and I don’t think uses shadow dom?)

Also, vue does have two-way binding as far as I can see.

Sorry, my mistake. Vue has virtual dom, not shadow dom, which is why it can do two-way binding. I honestly don’t know how much of a difference shadow-dom makes. The biggest time increase the Stencil devs report is due to the render-only-when-requested feature of the framework, which in theory could be created in almost any dom model.

Yes there is: https://stencil-worldwide.herokuapp.com/ (Mentioned in the first reply to your post already - this is linked from the page the reply linked to)